The same British Army that liberated Bergen Belsen?

Whilst that auld fcuk De Valera was signing condolences on the death of Hitler? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Cheers Sir. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
No I would not.

Tbh I've only heard the extra lyrics on Charlie and the Bhoys albums and from the Celtic away support.

The fella wie the T shirt and his pals though- I can't tell a cork accent from a Dublin one but his was an accent from the south.

About the lyrics- I first learned them over 40 years ago.
Terrible is correct- Behan was a true writer- he knew the power of the words.
Still it's about the lyrics
lyrics
or
lyrics
Behan was a fine writer- he knew the power of words, which is why he went for the "Terrible", which here is almost oxymoronic.
Still- glad to know that we both love a fine piece of work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Sorry ye couldnae find a more eloquent reply (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

BTW- you have yourself as a celt in the land of scots.

Now yer actually daft enough tae think that Scots urnae celts?

Jaysus, even that daft f'ck Ian Pishley widnae make that mistake (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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Jeez- you're naw very bright are ye?
Loyalist (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I'm typing this looking at a picture of Connolly wie the starry plough behing him. Listening to the Wolfe Tones singing "A Nation once again"
Eejit ye are- the fella next to me in temple bar had a "H-1981" sweater on- take it ye know what that's about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
He didn't sing any of the ahem " additional lyrics".

Pity that you seem to think that the only answer to a difference of opinion is a kicking- that's what's the f'cking dobs think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

For what it''s worth- I first met the song in about'67- and the Clancy's sang terrible
Clicky

This would tie in wie W.B Yeats. Easter 1916
"A Terrible beauty is born"

Can't help but think that Behan was echoing Yeats.

Hope this helps

Easter 1916

Ach- fookit, Those of us who are old enough to know Bobby D know his version.

The lyrics of "With God on our side"

Whit- you think that temple bar was full of SAS men? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Read my post- NO ONE sang that stuff.
No one does when it's sung at rugby and football games either.
Tbh- i've only heard the interjections sung in places like the barrowlands, Glasgow- which are generally full of plastic paddies, not actual Irishmen and women.

Strange really- I was in temple Bar - Dublin for four nights, sang this fine song in several pubs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Not one person sang the additional lyrics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Butchered raped and murdered- that's what happened to the original Americans.
And the Vietnamese (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Jist back from Dublin, went to Kilmainham gaol- wonderful and inspiring place- only slightly spoiled by the noisesome yank who was loud in his comments- good manners stopped me asking the booger about Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo bay and extraordinary rendition flights. Or about the execution of large numbers of people who have the misfortune to have the wrong skin colour.

Yes Patrick I'm sure you condemn those barbarities- at least I hope you do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Though- to the song- I had, some time back, a Clancy brothers record with a wonderful song called, I think, "God Bless England" full of Irony, must try and find the lyrics.
Edit to Include

Found it.

Whisky, like women is all a matter of opinions.
I shall respect yours sir.

Whilst thinking that i'm correct (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Though ardbeg is fine- most fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thank you Sir- Though I'm having a fine Glenfiddich Caoran reserve tonight (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Amazing- both sides are Celts- though some folks only want one side of the story told and sung.
Thank Jaysus I love songs from both sides. The Dubliners and the Clancy brothers sang songs from both sides- but then they were Irish (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Janus (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Excellent name- just as well I did Latin in school (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Just shows that I'm an old booger (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Good luck Janus and thanks for keeping the lyrics online.

It's not contradictory. My logic is simple here, I do hope that in the long term the island is united politically but this must come about with the agreement of the majority in the North. I believe that the only solution is a political one. A notion which now finds favour with Sinn Fein. That, and only that would fulfill the UN's idea of the self determination of peoples. The troops were sent in in 1971 to stop the place developing into another Yugoslavia.



Though of course he loudly decries those he terms "Brits" and all British troops.


Guilty as charged: the why is contained in the sentence above.


Not arguing with that point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Interesting my two posts on this thread have disappeared.
One which some of you have read where I hope I showed that I do love Ireland and despise the Orange order.
Where I stated that I hoped, in the future to see a united Ireland.
I can't be bothered typing it again.
Wonder how it got deleted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

The second post pointed out that bit from Patrick's website:

Clicky

Which, I would contend, by falsely linking the illegal war in Iraq with 9/11 is a spurious attempt to cloak American Imperialism.

I also pointed out that his attempt to say that I am/was a member of the British Army is nonsense.

Funny that both posts disappeared.

Wonder how long this post will last?

This post should not be deleted... (or any that is...)

Quite where Patrick has grabbed the idea that I was a member of the Armed Services mystifies me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
In case anyone doubts that Patrick is a fully fledged supporter of yankee imperialism.

From Patrick's own website.

I have yet to see him use this site to admit any error in America's imperialistic mission over the last 50 years.

Aye the choice of language- in some cases, Kenya, India etc you're quite correct, In others like Australia, Canada, New Zealand that language would be incorrect.

My point about imperialism is that, like you I acknowledge that it has brought much harm and some small good.

My view of the world situation is that the oppression of peoples and denial of democracy is wrong, whether in Ireland, Nicaragua, or Palestine. The view that the political struggle in Ireland is as one with the struggle against oppressors elsewhere is a strong one here in Scotland. It chimes with the views of Sinn Fein too.
Those on this site who have seen Glasgow Celtic play will agree that as well and Irish tricolours, fans also bring Palestinian and Basque flags to games.

To respond to Patrick's post in some small way:

1. It is possible to love Ireland, wish Ireland well, Love the history and the songs and still be British. This Easter I shall Once again be visting the land of my forebears. Dublin only this time rather than the Hills of Donegal where the McB's originate. I'm sorry if this seems like dissembling to you Patrick but I refuse to fit any 2- dimensional stereotype.

2. I do detest the Orange order- with a vengeance, I see the bastards marching each summer here and I know them as sectarian and filled with hatred. Blair - I despise him for his cosying up to American Imperialism, for further destabilising the Middle East and thus delaying the birth of a Palestinian homeland.

3. Maggie- more complex than Blair- she got much wrong and much right, If I praise her for ridding Argentina of a fascist dictatorship it's only an attempt to show that there was more than one side to her.
You may point out the hunger strikes. I would point out that De Valera allowed far more hunger strikers to die.
This view is recognised in Ireland- I know I've taken part in discussion on it.
Clicky

4. I came upon this site looking for the lyrics to a song, I forget which. My interest in matters Celtic relates to Poetry, song and politics. I do hope that at some future point the loyalist peoples of the North will see that their place is best served in a united Ireland. I do not believe that the best way to get them there is through violence.
In that view I am at one with Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Mitchell McLauglin.

Patrick Sir- I do seem to get you heated up, I regret that, but I will not bow to childish insults about Penis size, nor being called a lowlife, nor refuse, nor shall I worry about the latest, childish, hands up if you hate Tom McB bit.
You have I believe various options, you could of course ban me- you have not done that- respect to you for that forebearance.
You could on the other hand accept that a love of Ireland and a desire to see a happy outcome to a story which is more than eight hundred years old and ongoing can have more than one voice.
The choice is yours.

[quote]Johnny himself- I'm a Morton fan, but I saw Johnny play - he was a delight, I remember Johnny's death and the Orange scum's banner- do you remember what it said?
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He might have been a Morton fan as well, but he was a Celtic supporter and had an enormous love for Celtic
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He was indeed - a good man and a sad loss to fitba: Requiescat in Pace

The banner- shows the depths that the huns will turn to.
The wording was
"Tommy turns but Johnny Burns"
F'cking B'stards

Don't confuse protestants wie huns.
Though I am pleased to see an alternative reference to the origin of Taig or Teague-thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

BTW- I have Charlie and the Bhoys Version of Johnny Doyle
Lyrics
And it's naw in the song.

Johnny himself- I'm a Morton fan, but I saw Johnny play - he was a delight, I remember Johnny's death and the Orange scum's banner- do you remember what it said?

Fair play Christophe- you're saying that you find it akward when Patrick lectures me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The difference is that Britain has done her best to get rid of her imperial past- a bit like Belgium and the Netherlands ( and Unlike France (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )
The yanks keep expanding their imperium.

Paddy ya rogue. it's a generic name used by the Huns for all Catholics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The Orange NI term Taig, is of course a corruption of the Gaelic for Tim.

Ach I'm sure you were not, it's jist that the look goes wie the condition.


Wrong on both counts- I admit my country's errors of the past, Christ knows there were many, ( a bit like the belgian congo ), fortunately my country got rid of it's empire. America is expanding its Imperium. I have yet to see Patrick condemn the slaughter of the Native Americans, Indeed he chided me for using that phrase.
Nor have I seen him stand up against Yankee policy of support for the Zionists. Nor condemn Yankee intervention in Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua......................

Always keep that scepticism.

A small point Christophe Sir. Sceptic is the noun- a person is a Sceptic. The correct adjective is sceptical.
In fairness, your English is better than my French.

Actually she used strikethrough rather than parenthesis. A small point but exactitude can be important.

Patrick your continued fixation with penises is indeed remarkable- are you sure that you're on the correct website? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
TBH this seems a tactic to avoid rational debate. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

To the substantial point- your charge of


Which particular post of mine in this thread contains bullshit please?


A touch unkind perhaps- those of us who have seen loved ones in the final stages of Alzheimers will know what you mean.
It did seem a strange nomination, God alone knows why it was made now- a bit like Holywood giving an ageing actor a lifetime's achievement award.